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Fake Watch Shopping In Istanbul -  A Case Study As a CIA Case Officer operating overseas, you are exposed to the dark side of humanity. It is not a career for the faint-hearted and you learn some things they don’t teach in school. He who fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you. – Friedrich Nietzsche While the quote is dramatic, there is some merit to it. I didn’t fully realize how abnormal life at CIA was until I separated from the Agency. A byproduct of a career at CIA is a fascination with illicit activity; arms dealers, wildlife trafficking, organized crime, and, now that I am an aspiring watch nerd, counterfeit watches. Fake Watches - A Real-World Case Study Most articles on fake, or “replica” watches cover topics like “How to spot fake Rolex?”, “How much does a fake Rolex cost?”, or “Where to buy a fake Rolex?” These are all interesting topics, but we wanted to go deeper into the counterfeit luxury watch industry.  To do this, I went counterfeit watch shopping in Istanbul, Turkey. There’s nothing like first-hand experience. Counterfeit timepieces are a multi-billion-dollar industry, with shaky estimates indicating between 30 and 50 million fake watches entering the market each year. Contrast that figure with Rolex’s estimated annual production of approximately 1 million pieces per annum; It is reasonable to conclude that there are probably more fake Rolex watches on wrists than there are genuine examples throughout the world. This means that when you see someone wearing a Rolex, statistically speaking, it’s probably fake – a crazy thought. Istanbul - A Counterfeit Watch Mecca During a recent trip to Istanbul, I had a mission: to acquire a “super clone,” or ”superfake” a watch that is nearly indistinguishable from a real thing. Not only are cosmetic traits like the miniature laser-etched Rolex crown on the crystal present but if you take the watch apart, the movement itself is branded Rolex. Even for experienced watchmakers, some of these “super clones” are, all the way down to the movement components, virtually indistinguishable from genuine Rolex. There are differences, of course, but these “super clones” are astonishingly close to the genuine product to the untrained eye. I wanted to see for myself. Rolex crown laser-etched into the crystal, introduced in 2001 to deter counterfeiters. (Photo Credit: Bob’s Watches) Istanbul, Turkey Istanbul's Grand Bazaar is a covered market with over 4,000 shops selling everything from Turkish sweets to clothes and yes, of course, a large selection of counterfeit goods. Entering through the Nuruosmaniye Mosque gate, visitors are overwhelmed with a plethora of shops specifically targeting tourists. The presence of fake watches is immediately apparent and, in contrast to many markets around the world, completely in the open. The watch shopping experience varies depending on the shop but on the higher end is almost like a boutique experience, the only difference being the watches are fake and you can actually buy a “Rolex” rather than be put on a waiting list. They offer tea and coffee, a chair for your bored spouse to sit in, and customer service that exceeds the boutique experience presented by many luxury watchmakers. Interestingly, pictures are generally not discouraged and the sellers are relatively open about the sale of fakes. It isn’t just Rolex, either. Panerai, Audemars Piguet, Patek Philippe, and even counterfeit sketchy Breitlings are readily available, with starting (negotiable) prices of around $450. Most of the watches utilize Miyota movements and are, as you might expect, made in China. Pretty much any reference you can imagine is available including the Le Mans Daytona and Titanium Yachtmaster. 2024 Watches and Wonders releases ? No worries, they should be available soon. What Is A “Fake” Rolex?  It is important to understand what a fake Rolex is. We have identified three categories of counterfeit Rolex watches to be aware of. Cheap Or Tourist Fakes: These cost somewhere between $50 and $300 and are generally picked up from street vendors in major tourist cities in Europe, South America, the Middle East, and even New York. You used to be able to spot them by their quartz movements which caused the second hand to “tick” instead of sweep, but now they tend to have automatic movements, more accurate details, and better finishing. But, in general, they are still sloppy fakes and you are not fooling anyone who owns a Rolex with this piece unless you are in a dark room. Super Clone or One For One: So-called replica watches, nearly identical to the genuine thing. They can cost over a thousand dollars and rumor has it that even when taken apart, it can be difficult to tell if the watch is genuine or a reproduction. In theory, one could wear a super clone to the local RedBar watch nerd meetup and fool everyone in the room. It’s been rumored that these have even been unknowingly sold by legitimate dealers as well, proving that the only way to know something is real is to buy it from the boutique. Frankenwatches:   A catch-all term used to describe watches that may be made up of parts that have been switched out and/or a real watch with fake parts (replaced bezel, dial, hands, etc…). Some are honest efforts to restore a watch, but more sinister versions are meant to fool prospective buyers. A recent notable example was the “Tropical” Omega Speedmaster Ref. 2915-1 ‘Broad Arrow’ auctioned by Phillips for over $3.4 million. As documented by popular watch blogger Perezcope, the watch itself was a frankenwatch, allegedly cobbled together by insiders with access to the Omega archives.   Tropical” Omega Speedmaster Ref. 2915-1 ‘Broad Arrow’ frankenwatch, sold Phillips for over $3.4 million (Photo Credit: Phillips) Why Are Fake Watches A Problem? At a minimum, fake watches are textbook examples of intellectual property (IP) theft, using the designs and logos that Swiss brands spent millions of dollars developing over decades. Some go as far as to link the sale of counterfeit watches to child labor, sweatshops, and even terrorism, human trafficking, and organized crime. While direct evidence of this is scarce, it is reasonable to assume that a link exists to some extent. That said, the vast majority of the counterfeit industry originates in China and it appears as though the Chinese government at least tacitly supports it and probably has some oversight and regulation. Are Fakes Substitutes For The Real Thing? According to Business Insider , 23.3 million counterfeit watches are circling the US, more than Rolex has sold worldwide in the past 15 years. The logical conclusion is that this hurts Rolex’s bottom line. But are fakes reasonable substitutes? Is Rolex losing potential customers to fake watches? Probably not. The fact is, the type of person that will buy and wear a fake, likely can’t afford the real thing. In other cases, some may buy a fake now and then the real thing as their financial circumstances change. UFC fighter Conor McGregor recently revealed during a GQ Sports interview that he used to wear fake watches to press conferences before he could afford a genuine Rolex. He is now a legitimate customer, owning millions of dollars in Rolex, AP, and Patek. One could argue that in McGregor’s case, the fake Rolex watches served as the “top of the funnel” for Swiss brands. Conor McGregor Wearing a (real?) Rolex Daytona “Eye of the Tiger” Should I Buy A Fake Rolex? We can think of very few legitimate reasons to purchase a fake Rolex, and yes, doing so does ultimately fuel the already insatiable market for these timepieces and potentially provide funding for organized crime syndicates. Further, in some places, it’s illegal to buy and transport fake watches. Our advice is simple, buy the (real) and best watch you can afford. There are plenty of great and legitimate watches on the market that cost less than your iPhone . Real Rolex Sub (Photo Credit: James Rupley) In response to “Trading A Rolex To Get Out Of A Sticky Situation - Myth Or Reality?” , many commenters suggested traveling with a fake Rolex for bartering. The logic may be sound, but if you are really at the point where you have decided to part with a watch worth thousands of dollars, your life is likely on the line and the cost is trivial. Further, whoever you are giving the watch to is presumably in a position of power and likely someone you do not want to piss off should they determine the watch is fake. The potential for this plan to backfire is simply too high. Le Mans Daytona and “Titanium” Yachtmaster - all fakes I have heard of some people with expensive watch collections that have “dummy” displays in their house, the idea being that if someone breaks in to steal their collection, they would take the fake watches without realizing the real collection is hidden in a safe. This is something that could potentially make sense but is not a practice I would advise. If someone goes the distance to specifically target you for your watch collection, they are likely going to be pissed to find out they stole fake watches and may come back for retribution. No watch is worth your life. All that said, I do have a fake Rolex Submariner that I received as a gag gift from a wealthy friend in Dubai. I have never worn it or even taken out the links to make it fit. Who knows, maybe it will come in handy one day. A real Rolex Daytona (Photo Credit: James Rupley) Should I Be Worried About Fake Watches? By some estimates 20-50% of art in museums is fake and even the largest auction houses with significant resources have been duped with fake watches. While the risk of unwittingly buying a modern watch that is fake is real, this is particularly real in the vintage market, where replacement parts and refinishing jobs can result in a “real” watch becoming a frankenwatch. As an individual buyer, you should not be responsible for identifying a fake.  The safest thing to do is to either buy new watches or build a relationship with a seller you not only trust but trust their expertise. The latter is difficult as it can be incredibly difficult to determine which parts are genuine and which are replacements.   Back In Istanbul Despite my best efforts, I was not able to track down a “super clone” in the Grand Bazaar. Many of the vendors claimed to have better quality watches and vigorously sent Whatsapp messages to their colleagues to bring one by, but they never appeared. The fakes in the souk were mediocre at best with loose bezels and crude finishing and claimed Miyota movements. Fun party gags? Maybe, but I didn’t buy one. W.O.E.’s personal fake watch, acquired in Dubai. I did pick up a set of (fake) boxes, papers, and a blank Rolex warranty card to match my gifted counterfeit Rolex. Similar to the watches themselves, the box was crudely crafted and isn't fooling anyone. While I do not advocate for anyone to purchase anything illicit, I did it in the name of science . If you enjoyed this article, please consider signing up for our weekly free newsletter for further updates HERE . Read Next: The W.O.E. Tudor PVD Pelagos FXD
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It is not a career for the faint-hearted and you learn some things they don’t teach in school. *He who fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.* – Friedrich Nietzsche While the quote is dramatic, there is some merit to it. I didn’t fully realize how abnormal life at CIA was until I separated from the Agency. A byproduct of a career at CIA is a fascination with illicit activity; arms dealers, wildlife trafficking, organized crime, and, now that I am an aspiring watch nerd, counterfeit watches. ![fake watch industry counterfeit rolex homage replica istanbul](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/woe_pic_3_600x600.jpg?v=1720463742) ## **Fake Watches - A Real-World Case Study** Most articles on fake, or “replica” watches cover topics like “How to spot fake Rolex?”, “How much does a fake Rolex cost?”, or “Where to buy a fake Rolex?” These are all interesting topics, but we wanted to go deeper into the counterfeit luxury watch industry. To do this, I went counterfeit watch shopping in Istanbul, Turkey. There’s nothing like first-hand experience. Counterfeit timepieces are a multi-billion-dollar industry, with shaky estimates indicating between 30 and 50 million fake watches entering the market each year. Contrast that figure with Rolex’s estimated annual production of approximately 1 million pieces per annum; It is reasonable to conclude that there are probably more fake Rolex watches on wrists than there are genuine examples throughout the world. This means that when you see someone wearing a Rolex, statistically speaking, it’s probably fake – a crazy thought. ![istanbul turkey watch shopping 2024 homage replica rolex](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/Istanbul_600x600.jpg?v=1720463818) ## **Istanbul - A Counterfeit Watch Mecca** During a recent trip to Istanbul, I had a mission: to acquire a “super clone,” or ”superfake” a watch that is nearly indistinguishable from a real thing. Not only are cosmetic traits like the miniature laser-etched Rolex crown on the crystal present but if you take the watch apart, the movement itself is branded Rolex. Even for experienced watchmakers, some of these “super clones” are, all the way down to the movement components, virtually indistinguishable from genuine Rolex. There are differences, of course, but these “super clones” are astonishingly close to the genuine product to the untrained eye. I wanted to see for myself. ![rolex gmt-master II crystal engraving laser anti-counterfeit](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/Crown_1024x1024.jpg?v=1720463913) ###### Rolex crown laser-etched into the crystal, introduced in 2001 to deter counterfeiters. (Photo Credit: Bob’s Watches) ## **Istanbul, Turkey** Istanbul's Grand Bazaar is a covered market with over 4,000 shops selling everything from Turkish sweets to clothes and yes, of course, a large selection of counterfeit goods. Entering through the Nuruosmaniye Mosque gate, visitors are overwhelmed with a plethora of shops specifically targeting tourists. The presence of fake watches is immediately apparent and, in contrast to many markets around the world, completely in the open. ![istanbul turkey counterfeit watch salesmen fake rolex homage 2024](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/WOE_Pic_2_600x600.jpg?v=1720463975) The watch shopping experience varies depending on the shop but on the higher end is almost like a boutique experience, the only difference being the watches are fake and you can actually buy a “Rolex” rather than be put on a waiting list. They offer tea and coffee, a chair for your bored spouse to sit in, and customer service that exceeds the boutique experience presented by many luxury watchmakers. Interestingly, pictures are generally not discouraged and the sellers are relatively open about the sale of fakes. It isn’t just Rolex, either. Panerai, Audemars Piguet, Patek Philippe, and even counterfeit sketchy Breitlings are readily available, with starting (negotiable) prices of around \$450. Most of the watches utilize Miyota movements and are, as you might expect, made in China. Pretty much any reference you can imagine is available including the Le Mans Daytona and Titanium Yachtmaster. [2024 Watches and Wonders releases](https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/best-new-watches-2024 "Watches And Wonders Releases For The W.O.E. Community")? No worries, they should be available soon. ![replica homage fake rolex breitling omega seamaster submariner](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/WOE_Pic_Breitling_600x600.jpg?v=1720464037) ## **What Is A “Fake” Rolex?** It is important to understand what a fake Rolex is. We have identified three categories of counterfeit Rolex watches to be aware of. **Cheap Or Tourist Fakes:** These cost somewhere between \$50 and \$300 and are generally picked up from street vendors in major tourist cities in Europe, South America, the Middle East, and even New York. You used to be able to spot them by their quartz movements which caused the second hand to “tick” instead of sweep, but now they tend to have automatic movements, more accurate details, and better finishing. But, in general, they are still sloppy fakes and you are not fooling anyone who owns a Rolex with this piece unless you are in a dark room. **Super Clone or One For One:** So-called replica watches, nearly identical to the genuine thing. They can cost over a thousand dollars and rumor has it that even when taken apart, it can be difficult to tell if the watch is genuine or a reproduction. In theory, one could wear a super clone to the local RedBar watch nerd meetup and fool everyone in the room. It’s been rumored that these have even been unknowingly sold by legitimate dealers as well, proving that the only way to know something is real is to buy it from the boutique. **Frankenwatches:** A catch-all term used to describe watches that may be made up of parts that have been switched out and/or a real watch with fake parts (replaced bezel, dial, hands, etc…). Some are honest efforts to restore a watch, but more sinister versions are meant to fool prospective buyers. A recent notable example was the “Tropical” Omega Speedmaster Ref. 2915-1 ‘Broad Arrow’ auctioned by Phillips for over \$3.4 million. As documented by popular watch blogger Perezcope, the watch itself was a frankenwatch, allegedly cobbled together by insiders with access to the Omega archives. ![frankenwatch omega speedmaster moon watch auction house](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/Tropical_Omega_Speedmaster_Ref._2915-1_Broad_Arrow_600x600.jpg?v=1720464177) ###### Tropical” Omega Speedmaster Ref. 2915-1 ‘Broad Arrow’ frankenwatch, sold Phillips for over \$3.4 million (Photo Credit: Phillips) ## **Why Are Fake Watches A Problem?** At a minimum, fake watches are textbook examples of intellectual property (IP) theft, using the designs and logos that Swiss brands spent millions of dollars developing over decades. Some go as far as to link the sale of counterfeit watches to child labor, sweatshops, and even terrorism, human trafficking, and organized crime. While direct evidence of this is scarce, it is reasonable to assume that a link exists to some extent. That said, the vast majority of the counterfeit industry originates in China and it appears as though the Chinese government at least tacitly supports it and probably has some oversight and regulation. ![counterfeit watch boutique istanbul turkey](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/WOE_Pic_600x600.jpg?v=1720464251) ## **Are Fakes Substitutes For The Real Thing?** According to *Business Insider*, 23.3 million counterfeit watches are circling the US, more than Rolex has sold worldwide in the past 15 years. The logical conclusion is that this hurts Rolex’s bottom line. But are fakes reasonable substitutes? Is Rolex losing potential customers to fake watches? Probably not. The fact is, the type of person that will buy and wear a fake, likely can’t afford the real thing. In other cases, some may buy a fake now and then the real thing as their financial circumstances change. UFC fighter Conor McGregor recently revealed during a GQ Sports interview that he used to wear fake watches to press conferences before he could afford a genuine Rolex. He is now a legitimate customer, owning millions of dollars in Rolex, AP, and Patek. One could argue that in McGregor’s case, the fake Rolex watches served as the “top of the funnel” for Swiss brands. ![Conor McGregor Wearing a (real?) Rolex Daytona “Eye of the Tiger”](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/Connor_Mcgregor_600x600.jpg?v=1720464304) ###### Conor McGregor Wearing a (real?) Rolex Daytona “Eye of the Tiger” ## **Should I Buy A Fake Rolex?** We can think of very few legitimate reasons to purchase a fake Rolex, and yes, doing so does ultimately fuel the already insatiable market for these timepieces and potentially provide funding for organized crime syndicates. Further, in some places, it’s illegal to buy and transport fake watches. Our advice is simple, buy the (real) and best watch you can afford. There are plenty of [great and legitimate watches on the market that cost less than your iPhone](https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/best-military-watches-under-1-000-ask-the-experts "Best Watches Under $1,000 - Ask the Experts"). ![rolex ceramic submariner 2024 james rupley watches of espionage](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/Watch-64_1024x1024.jpg?v=1720464472) ###### Real Rolex Sub (Photo Credit: James Rupley) In response to [“Trading A Rolex To Get Out Of A Sticky Situation - Myth Or Reality?”](https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/trading-a-rolex-to-get-out-of-a-sticky-situation-myth-or-reality "Trading a Rolex to Get out of a Sticky Situation - Myth or Reality?"), many commenters suggested traveling with a fake Rolex for bartering. The logic may be sound, but if you are really at the point where you have decided to part with a watch worth thousands of dollars, your life is likely on the line and the cost is trivial. Further, whoever you are giving the watch to is presumably in a position of power and likely someone you do not want to piss off should they determine the watch is fake. The potential for this plan to backfire is simply too high. ![fake replica homage rolex daytona le mans superclone](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/woe_pic_4_600x600.jpg?v=1720464592) ###### Le Mans Daytona and “Titanium” Yachtmaster - all fakes I have heard of some people with expensive watch collections that have “dummy” displays in their house, the idea being that if someone breaks in to steal their collection, they would take the fake watches without realizing the real collection is hidden in a safe. This is something that could potentially make sense but is not a practice I would advise. If someone goes the distance to specifically target you for your watch collection, they are likely going to be pissed to find out they stole fake watches and may come back for retribution. No watch is worth your life. All that said, I do have a fake Rolex Submariner that I received as a gag gift from a wealthy friend in Dubai. I have never worn it or even taken out the links to make it fit. Who knows, maybe it will come in handy one day. ![rolex daytona meteorite dial rubber oysterflex strap watches of espionage james rupley](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/DSF7659_a0b50fd7-e63f-46cf-9a0e-712abc2bd289_1024x1024.jpg?v=1720464668) ###### A real Rolex Daytona (Photo Credit: James Rupley) ## **Should I Be Worried About Fake Watches?** By some estimates 20-50% of art in museums is fake and even the largest auction houses with significant resources have been duped with fake watches. While the risk of unwittingly buying a modern watch that is fake is real, this is particularly real in the vintage market, where replacement parts and refinishing jobs can result in a “real” watch becoming a frankenwatch. As an individual buyer, you should not be responsible for identifying a fake. The safest thing to do is to either buy new watches or build a relationship with a seller you not only trust but trust their expertise. The latter is difficult as it can be incredibly difficult to determine which parts are genuine and which are replacements. ![fake replica homage rolex box and papers](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/WOE_Pics_Rolex_600x600.jpg?v=1720464768) ## **Back In Istanbul** Despite my best efforts, I was not able to track down a “super clone” in the Grand Bazaar. Many of the vendors claimed to have better quality watches and vigorously sent Whatsapp messages to their colleagues to bring one by, but they never appeared. The fakes in the souk were mediocre at best with loose bezels and crude finishing and claimed Miyota movements. Fun party gags? Maybe, but I didn’t buy one. ![watches of espionage fake homage replica rolex](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/Watches_of_espionage_fake_rolex_600x600.jpg?v=1720464844) ###### W.O.E.’s personal fake watch, acquired in Dubai. I did pick up a set of (fake) boxes, papers, and a blank Rolex warranty card to match my gifted counterfeit Rolex. Similar to the watches themselves, the box was crudely crafted and isn't fooling anyone. While I do not advocate for anyone to purchase anything illicit, I did it in the name of *science*. ## **If you enjoyed this article, please consider signing up for our weekly free newsletter for further updates** [HERE](http://eepurl.com/h8jvsv "Watches of Espionage Email Signup"). **Read Next:** [The W.O.E. Tudor PVD Pelagos FXD](https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/pvd-tudor-pelagos-fxd "The W.O.E. Tudor PVD Pelagos FXD") [![tudor fxd custom black dlc pvd](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/DSF6168_600x600_6f1413e9-a126-47d1-813d-3bb29a4be108_240x240.webp?v=1720465377)](https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/pvd-tudor-pelagos-fxd "The W.O.E. Tudor PVD Pelagos FXD") By Watches of Espionage. July 9, 2024 [PREVIOUS Custom G-Shock, Omega, & Tudor - Watches Fit To Guard A King](https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/g-shock-omega-tudor-watches-royalty-protection-uk) [NEXT US Secret Service Omega Seamaster During Trump's Assassination Attempt](https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/secret-service-omega-seamaster-watch-trump-assassination) ## 34 comments Purchased a “Tudor” black bay red bezel, on line trusted dealer ala redit in 2023 340.00 US \$ plus shipping to Canada. Arrived no problem in about two weeks with tracking The rep was very good with Asian hk 2824 ETA clone, consistent +/- 3secs a day. Wt and diametions correct tight dial graphics = however lume was greenish not tea coloured like gen. Had it for a month and couldn’t stand it was fake so I sold it for at a 50.00 loss, so that’s what I figured the cosplay of a gen Tudor cost Saved up and bought a real one used from a high end pawn shop for 4400.00 CA never again Bill January 19, 2026 Rolex watches for men Saksham January 8, 2026 I still don’t know if the watch I have is a fake or a rolex. Kevin Apperson December 5, 2025 Actually, I preferred to buy from a physical store. When I was traveling in Hong Kong, I looked around but couldn’t find it. Finally, I saw someone recommend russellmeansfreedom .com in the comments section of a video, and ended up buying one online. It was worth the price, I guess. Chadi October 25, 2025 I appreciate how this article didn’t just talk about “how to spot a fake,” but actually explored what the replica market looks like today. The Grand Bazaar part was fascinating – I’d love to see that in person. I think replica watches, especially the high-end ones factoryrolex .com, show how talented some of these factories really are. Of course, owning the real thing is special, but there’s also something interesting about how close replicas can get for a fraction of the price. 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## **Fake Watch Shopping In Istanbul - A Case Study** As a CIA Case Officer operating overseas, you are exposed to the dark side of humanity. It is not a career for the faint-hearted and you learn some things they don’t teach in school. *He who fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.* – Friedrich Nietzsche While the quote is dramatic, there is some merit to it. I didn’t fully realize how abnormal life at CIA was until I separated from the Agency. A byproduct of a career at CIA is a fascination with illicit activity; arms dealers, wildlife trafficking, organized crime, and, now that I am an aspiring watch nerd, counterfeit watches. ![fake watch industry counterfeit rolex homage replica istanbul](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/woe_pic_3_600x600.jpg?v=1720463742) ## **Fake Watches - A Real-World Case Study** Most articles on fake, or “replica” watches cover topics like “How to spot fake Rolex?”, “How much does a fake Rolex cost?”, or “Where to buy a fake Rolex?” These are all interesting topics, but we wanted to go deeper into the counterfeit luxury watch industry. To do this, I went counterfeit watch shopping in Istanbul, Turkey. There’s nothing like first-hand experience. Counterfeit timepieces are a multi-billion-dollar industry, with shaky estimates indicating between 30 and 50 million fake watches entering the market each year. Contrast that figure with Rolex’s estimated annual production of approximately 1 million pieces per annum; It is reasonable to conclude that there are probably more fake Rolex watches on wrists than there are genuine examples throughout the world. This means that when you see someone wearing a Rolex, statistically speaking, it’s probably fake – a crazy thought. ![istanbul turkey watch shopping 2024 homage replica rolex](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/Istanbul_600x600.jpg?v=1720463818) ## **Istanbul - A Counterfeit Watch Mecca** During a recent trip to Istanbul, I had a mission: to acquire a “super clone,” or ”superfake” a watch that is nearly indistinguishable from a real thing. Not only are cosmetic traits like the miniature laser-etched Rolex crown on the crystal present but if you take the watch apart, the movement itself is branded Rolex. Even for experienced watchmakers, some of these “super clones” are, all the way down to the movement components, virtually indistinguishable from genuine Rolex. There are differences, of course, but these “super clones” are astonishingly close to the genuine product to the untrained eye. I wanted to see for myself. ![rolex gmt-master II crystal engraving laser anti-counterfeit](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/Crown_1024x1024.jpg?v=1720463913) ###### Rolex crown laser-etched into the crystal, introduced in 2001 to deter counterfeiters. (Photo Credit: Bob’s Watches) ## **Istanbul, Turkey** Istanbul's Grand Bazaar is a covered market with over 4,000 shops selling everything from Turkish sweets to clothes and yes, of course, a large selection of counterfeit goods. Entering through the Nuruosmaniye Mosque gate, visitors are overwhelmed with a plethora of shops specifically targeting tourists. The presence of fake watches is immediately apparent and, in contrast to many markets around the world, completely in the open. ![istanbul turkey counterfeit watch salesmen fake rolex homage 2024](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/WOE_Pic_2_600x600.jpg?v=1720463975) The watch shopping experience varies depending on the shop but on the higher end is almost like a boutique experience, the only difference being the watches are fake and you can actually buy a “Rolex” rather than be put on a waiting list. They offer tea and coffee, a chair for your bored spouse to sit in, and customer service that exceeds the boutique experience presented by many luxury watchmakers. Interestingly, pictures are generally not discouraged and the sellers are relatively open about the sale of fakes. It isn’t just Rolex, either. Panerai, Audemars Piguet, Patek Philippe, and even counterfeit sketchy Breitlings are readily available, with starting (negotiable) prices of around \$450. Most of the watches utilize Miyota movements and are, as you might expect, made in China. Pretty much any reference you can imagine is available including the Le Mans Daytona and Titanium Yachtmaster. [2024 Watches and Wonders releases](https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/best-new-watches-2024 "Watches And Wonders Releases For The W.O.E. Community")? No worries, they should be available soon. ![replica homage fake rolex breitling omega seamaster submariner](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/WOE_Pic_Breitling_600x600.jpg?v=1720464037) ## **What Is A “Fake” Rolex?** It is important to understand what a fake Rolex is. We have identified three categories of counterfeit Rolex watches to be aware of. **Cheap Or Tourist Fakes:** These cost somewhere between \$50 and \$300 and are generally picked up from street vendors in major tourist cities in Europe, South America, the Middle East, and even New York. You used to be able to spot them by their quartz movements which caused the second hand to “tick” instead of sweep, but now they tend to have automatic movements, more accurate details, and better finishing. But, in general, they are still sloppy fakes and you are not fooling anyone who owns a Rolex with this piece unless you are in a dark room. **Super Clone or One For One:** So-called replica watches, nearly identical to the genuine thing. They can cost over a thousand dollars and rumor has it that even when taken apart, it can be difficult to tell if the watch is genuine or a reproduction. In theory, one could wear a super clone to the local RedBar watch nerd meetup and fool everyone in the room. It’s been rumored that these have even been unknowingly sold by legitimate dealers as well, proving that the only way to know something is real is to buy it from the boutique. **Frankenwatches:** A catch-all term used to describe watches that may be made up of parts that have been switched out and/or a real watch with fake parts (replaced bezel, dial, hands, etc…). Some are honest efforts to restore a watch, but more sinister versions are meant to fool prospective buyers. A recent notable example was the “Tropical” Omega Speedmaster Ref. 2915-1 ‘Broad Arrow’ auctioned by Phillips for over \$3.4 million. As documented by popular watch blogger Perezcope, the watch itself was a frankenwatch, allegedly cobbled together by insiders with access to the Omega archives. ![frankenwatch omega speedmaster moon watch auction house](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/Tropical_Omega_Speedmaster_Ref._2915-1_Broad_Arrow_600x600.jpg?v=1720464177) ###### Tropical” Omega Speedmaster Ref. 2915-1 ‘Broad Arrow’ frankenwatch, sold Phillips for over \$3.4 million (Photo Credit: Phillips) ## **Why Are Fake Watches A Problem?** At a minimum, fake watches are textbook examples of intellectual property (IP) theft, using the designs and logos that Swiss brands spent millions of dollars developing over decades. Some go as far as to link the sale of counterfeit watches to child labor, sweatshops, and even terrorism, human trafficking, and organized crime. While direct evidence of this is scarce, it is reasonable to assume that a link exists to some extent. That said, the vast majority of the counterfeit industry originates in China and it appears as though the Chinese government at least tacitly supports it and probably has some oversight and regulation. ![counterfeit watch boutique istanbul turkey](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/WOE_Pic_600x600.jpg?v=1720464251) ## **Are Fakes Substitutes For The Real Thing?** According to *Business Insider*, 23.3 million counterfeit watches are circling the US, more than Rolex has sold worldwide in the past 15 years. The logical conclusion is that this hurts Rolex’s bottom line. But are fakes reasonable substitutes? Is Rolex losing potential customers to fake watches? Probably not. The fact is, the type of person that will buy and wear a fake, likely can’t afford the real thing. In other cases, some may buy a fake now and then the real thing as their financial circumstances change. UFC fighter Conor McGregor recently revealed during a GQ Sports interview that he used to wear fake watches to press conferences before he could afford a genuine Rolex. He is now a legitimate customer, owning millions of dollars in Rolex, AP, and Patek. One could argue that in McGregor’s case, the fake Rolex watches served as the “top of the funnel” for Swiss brands. ![Conor McGregor Wearing a (real?) Rolex Daytona “Eye of the Tiger”](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/Connor_Mcgregor_600x600.jpg?v=1720464304) ###### Conor McGregor Wearing a (real?) Rolex Daytona “Eye of the Tiger” ## **Should I Buy A Fake Rolex?** We can think of very few legitimate reasons to purchase a fake Rolex, and yes, doing so does ultimately fuel the already insatiable market for these timepieces and potentially provide funding for organized crime syndicates. Further, in some places, it’s illegal to buy and transport fake watches. Our advice is simple, buy the (real) and best watch you can afford. There are plenty of [great and legitimate watches on the market that cost less than your iPhone](https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/best-military-watches-under-1-000-ask-the-experts "Best Watches Under $1,000 - Ask the Experts"). ![rolex ceramic submariner 2024 james rupley watches of espionage](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/Watch-64_1024x1024.jpg?v=1720464472) ###### Real Rolex Sub (Photo Credit: James Rupley) In response to [“Trading A Rolex To Get Out Of A Sticky Situation - Myth Or Reality?”](https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/trading-a-rolex-to-get-out-of-a-sticky-situation-myth-or-reality "Trading a Rolex to Get out of a Sticky Situation - Myth or Reality?"), many commenters suggested traveling with a fake Rolex for bartering. The logic may be sound, but if you are really at the point where you have decided to part with a watch worth thousands of dollars, your life is likely on the line and the cost is trivial. Further, whoever you are giving the watch to is presumably in a position of power and likely someone you do not want to piss off should they determine the watch is fake. The potential for this plan to backfire is simply too high. ![fake replica homage rolex daytona le mans superclone](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/woe_pic_4_600x600.jpg?v=1720464592) ###### Le Mans Daytona and “Titanium” Yachtmaster - all fakes I have heard of some people with expensive watch collections that have “dummy” displays in their house, the idea being that if someone breaks in to steal their collection, they would take the fake watches without realizing the real collection is hidden in a safe. This is something that could potentially make sense but is not a practice I would advise. If someone goes the distance to specifically target you for your watch collection, they are likely going to be pissed to find out they stole fake watches and may come back for retribution. No watch is worth your life. All that said, I do have a fake Rolex Submariner that I received as a gag gift from a wealthy friend in Dubai. I have never worn it or even taken out the links to make it fit. Who knows, maybe it will come in handy one day. ![rolex daytona meteorite dial rubber oysterflex strap watches of espionage james rupley](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/DSF7659_a0b50fd7-e63f-46cf-9a0e-712abc2bd289_1024x1024.jpg?v=1720464668) ###### A real Rolex Daytona (Photo Credit: James Rupley) ## **Should I Be Worried About Fake Watches?** By some estimates 20-50% of art in museums is fake and even the largest auction houses with significant resources have been duped with fake watches. While the risk of unwittingly buying a modern watch that is fake is real, this is particularly real in the vintage market, where replacement parts and refinishing jobs can result in a “real” watch becoming a frankenwatch. As an individual buyer, you should not be responsible for identifying a fake. The safest thing to do is to either buy new watches or build a relationship with a seller you not only trust but trust their expertise. The latter is difficult as it can be incredibly difficult to determine which parts are genuine and which are replacements. ![fake replica homage rolex box and papers](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/WOE_Pics_Rolex_600x600.jpg?v=1720464768) ## **Back In Istanbul** Despite my best efforts, I was not able to track down a “super clone” in the Grand Bazaar. Many of the vendors claimed to have better quality watches and vigorously sent Whatsapp messages to their colleagues to bring one by, but they never appeared. The fakes in the souk were mediocre at best with loose bezels and crude finishing and claimed Miyota movements. Fun party gags? Maybe, but I didn’t buy one. ![watches of espionage fake homage replica rolex](https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0582/0291/4931/files/Watches_of_espionage_fake_rolex_600x600.jpg?v=1720464844) ###### W.O.E.’s personal fake watch, acquired in Dubai. I did pick up a set of (fake) boxes, papers, and a blank Rolex warranty card to match my gifted counterfeit Rolex. Similar to the watches themselves, the box was crudely crafted and isn't fooling anyone. While I do not advocate for anyone to purchase anything illicit, I did it in the name of *science*. ## **If you enjoyed this article, please consider signing up for our weekly free newsletter for further updates** [HERE](http://eepurl.com/h8jvsv "Watches of Espionage Email Signup"). **Read Next:** [The W.O.E. 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