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About a month ago my desktop pc (Windows 10) must have been hacked. I woke up one morning, noticed that while I was asleep, my browser (chrome) had visited Paypal with several attempted purchases of gift cards or crypto. They had also visited my gmail and moved the paypal log-in confirmation emails etc. to the trash - trying to cover their tracks (but forgot to delete the trash). I immidiately called paypal, none of the purchases were successful but I changed my password and that of my gmail etc. as well. I also updated my chrome browser and ran my installed security programs (RogueKiller, Malwarebytes, SuperAntiSpyware), which found nothing.
I did't see any suspiscious activity for several weeks, figured maybe the browser update may have fixed a security hole. Then the other evening I noticed my desktop screensaver had gone off and there was a blue window open on my desktop with the word "Support". I could see a mouse curser moving around, obviously a remote hack. I instantly shut the power off to the pc, unplugged my modem and restarted the pc. While waiting for it to reboot my phone alerted me to email from Paypal (regarding an email password change) and also got a phone text message (2 factor authentication) from paypal with an password reset access code. Once the pc booted, I kept internet off and opened chrome to see if I could get the history. There was evidence of an attempt to access my paypal (unsuccessful) and no evidence of someone messing around in my gmail. After this, I ran those basic av scans and added ESET online scan which identified an old program (utorrent - removed) and a potential trojan (I believe it was part of Microsoft visual ++)
Now I just checked a lesser used email account (Not the account from the paypal issues) and found a "ransome note" in my junk folder from "myself" (that lesser used account) from Tuesday, which I can copy and paste here if needed.
I'm assuming all of these issues are connected and it sounds serious to me. Is there a way to find and get rid of whatever this is? I'm not tech savy enough to understand anything like this and could really use some help. Thanks!
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From what you describe you are probably dealing with some sort of tech support scam and hacking.
You may want to read
Beware of Phony Emails, Phone Calls, Tech Support Scams
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# Suspected Scam and/or RAT Help needed
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About a month ago my desktop pc (Windows 10) must have been hacked. I woke up one morning, noticed that while I was asleep, my browser (chrome) had visited Paypal with several attempted purchases of gift cards or crypto. They had also visited my gmail and moved the paypal log-in confirmation emails etc. to the trash - trying to cover their tracks (but forgot to delete the trash). I immidiately called paypal, none of the purchases were successful but I changed my password and that of my gmail etc. as well. I also updated my chrome browser and ran my installed security programs (RogueKiller, Malwarebytes, SuperAntiSpyware), which found nothing.
I did't see any suspiscious activity for several weeks, figured maybe the browser update may have fixed a security hole. Then the other evening I noticed my desktop screensaver had gone off and there was a blue window open on my desktop with the word "Support". I could see a mouse curser moving around, obviously a remote hack. I instantly shut the power off to the pc, unplugged my modem and restarted the pc. While waiting for it to reboot my phone alerted me to email from Paypal (regarding an email password change) and also got a phone text message (2 factor authentication) from paypal with an password reset access code. Once the pc booted, I kept internet off and opened chrome to see if I could get the history. There was evidence of an attempt to access my paypal (unsuccessful) and no evidence of someone messing around in my gmail. After this, I ran those basic av scans and added ESET online scan which identified an old program (utorrent - removed) and a potential trojan (I believe it was part of Microsoft visual ++)
Now I just checked a lesser used email account (Not the account from the paypal issues) and found a "ransome note" in my junk folder from "myself" (that lesser used account) from Tuesday, which I can copy and paste here if needed.
I'm assuming all of these issues are connected and it sounds serious to me. Is there a way to find and get rid of whatever this is? I'm not tech savy enough to understand anything like this and could really use some help. Thanks\!
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From what you describe you are probably dealing with some sort of tech support scam and hacking.
You may want to read **[Beware of Phony Emails, Phone Calls, Tech Support Scams](https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/407147/answers-to-common-security-questions-best-practices/?p=3897161)** (Post \#13) for more information about how these scams work.
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About a month ago my desktop pc (Windows 10) must have been hacked. I woke up one morning, noticed that while I was asleep, my browser (chrome) had visited Paypal with several attempted purchases of gift cards or crypto. They had also visited my gmail and moved the paypal log-in confirmation emails etc. to the trash - trying to cover their tracks (but forgot to delete the trash). I immidiately called paypal, none of the purchases were successful but I changed my password and that of my gmail etc. as well. I also updated my chrome browser and ran my installed security programs (RogueKiller, Malwarebytes, SuperAntiSpyware), which found nothing.
I did't see any suspiscious activity for several weeks, figured maybe the browser update may have fixed a security hole. Then the other evening I noticed my desktop screensaver had gone off and there was a blue window open on my desktop with the word "Support". I could see a mouse curser moving around, obviously a remote hack. I instantly shut the power off to the pc, unplugged my modem and restarted the pc. While waiting for it to reboot my phone alerted me to email from Paypal (regarding an email password change) and also got a phone text message (2 factor authentication) from paypal with an password reset access code. Once the pc booted, I kept internet off and opened chrome to see if I could get the history. There was evidence of an attempt to access my paypal (unsuccessful) and no evidence of someone messing around in my gmail. After this, I ran those basic av scans and added ESET online scan which identified an old program (utorrent - removed) and a potential trojan (I believe it was part of Microsoft visual ++)
Now I just checked a lesser used email account (Not the account from the paypal issues) and found a "ransome note" in my junk folder from "myself" (that lesser used account) from Tuesday, which I can copy and paste here if needed.
I'm assuming all of these issues are connected and it sounds serious to me. Is there a way to find and get rid of whatever this is? I'm not tech savy enough to understand anything like this and could really use some help. Thanks\!
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From what you describe you are probably dealing with some sort of tech support scam and hacking.
You may want to read **[Beware of Phony Emails, Phone Calls, Tech Support Scams](https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/407147/answers-to-common-security-questions-best-practices/?p=3897161)** (Post \#13) for more information about how these scams work.
Actual ransomware usually will have **obvious indications** ([signs of infection](https://blog.rsisecurity.com/how-to-identify-signs-of-ransomware-attacks/ "External link") or [signs of ransomware activity](https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/defender-xdr/advanced-hunting-find-ransomware?view=o365-worldwide#check-for-individual-signs-of-ransomware-activity "External link")) that something is wrong...it typically targets and encrypts data files so you cannot open them locally (and on any connected drives at the time of infection), **in most cases it appends an obvious extension** (may be random random or with an id and/or email address) **to the end or beginning** of encrypted filenames, **demands a ransom payment by dropping ransom notes** in every directory or affected folder where data has been encrypted and sometimes changes Windows wallpaper. In rare cases the criminals will send victims an email with the ransom demands as reported [here](https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/new-agelocker-ransomware-uses-googlers-utility-to-encrypt-files/).
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