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Meta Title5 Clear Signs Of A Market Bubble | Seeking Alpha
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Home Market Outlook Today's Market Summary Markets are trading near all-time highs, despite a clearly deteriorating jobs market. Two things are primarily powering this rally: the AI revolution and investor hopes for lower interest rates. A prudent investor slicing the overall market using a variety of valuation lenses can see that the overall market is clearly overvalued at the moment. This article highlights five key charts that show equities are in significantly overbought territory. Looking for a helping hand in the market? Members of The Biotech Forum get exclusive ideas and guidance to navigate any climate. Learn More » anankkml/iStock via Getty Images The market continues to trade near all-time highs across all the major indexes. Equities continue to climb despite a clearly slowing jobs market. Job openings in this week's JOLTs report were lower than the number of unemployed individuals in the U.S. This is the first time this has occurred since April of 2021, over four years ago. Before the bell on Friday, the August BLS report showed only 22,000 positions created last month. Less than one-third of the consensus estimate of 75,000. This followed a disappointing July BLS reading as well as significant downward revisions to May and June jobs numbers. SEC Filings, Geekwire Yet, the market continues to remain near record levels. The rally appears to be primarily driven by the huge investments tech titans like Microsoft ( MSFT ), Alphabet ( GOOG ) , Amazon ( AMZN ), and Meta Platforms ( META ) are making to build massive data centers and other AI-related infrastructure and capabilities, as well as increasing hopes that the Federal Reserve will finally start to reduce interest rates starting with the upcoming FOMC in mid-September. So, how overvalued are U.S. equities? Significantly, in my opinion. In today's column, I look at five charts/metrics that should give any prudent person significant pause. Visual Capitalist The U.S. makes up approximately 4.2% of the global population, yet U.S. equities make up nearly half of all global stock market capitalization. Yes, New York City is the global financial capital, and Silicon Valley is the epicenter of technology, including the AI revolution. The greenback is the global reserve currency, at least for the moment. And the U.S. military is considered the preeminent military force on the planet. However, do U.S. equities deserve a market capitalization over 5.5 times that of the European Union, which has over 100 million more citizens? Does it merit over five times the market capitalization of China with some 1.4 billion people? U.S. as percent of global population (TheGlobalEconomy.com) I often point out the S&P 500 ( SP500 ) trades at approximately 3.2 times revenues, which has only been exceeded briefly at the end of the Internet Boom. Historical NASDAQ price to sales ratio (Macrotrends) However, this valuation looks downright attractive compared to the price-to-sales ratio of the NASDAQ ( COMP:IND ), which is now north of 6.7 times. GuruFocus Then we have the market cap to GDP ratio, also known as the " Buffett Indicator," given the weight the Oracle of Omaha gave to it during his long, illustrious investing career. Is it any wonder why Berkshire Hathaway ( BRK.B ) has built up record cash holdings in recent years before Mr. Buffett's retirement this year? S&P 500 Earnings Yield (Multpl) Let's move over to the S&P 500 earnings yield (trailing 12-month earnings/S&P Index), which is just over 3.3%. The yield on the " risk-free" 10-year Treasury ( US10Y ) is currently 4.08%. This means not only is there no " risk premium" to holding equities, but it is actually negative. Vettafi - August 2025 Finally, we can look at the overall market via several arithmetic means. The chart above was calculated at the end of August. It consists of: The Crestmont Research P/E ratio. The cyclical P/E ratio uses the trailing 10-year earnings as the divisor. The Q ratio is the total price of the market divided by its replacement cost. The relationship of the S&P composite price to a regression trendline. These calculations show the market has never been valued higher. An investor can believe one of two things about the markets trading at these levels. They can put their faith in the five most dangerous words in the English language, " It is different this time," or acknowledge that the market is trading in extremely overbought territory. I clearly lean towards the latter conclusion. That leaves my portfolio roughly one-quarter allocated in short-term treasuries yielding four percent. And the rest is within covered call holdings around the few stocks in this market sporting reasonable valuations. That provides some downside risk mitigation. It also allows me to continue to participate in the rally should it continue before reality eventually arrives. 57.25K Followers Analyst’s Disclosure: I/we have a beneficial long position in the shares of AMZN either through stock ownership, options, or other derivatives. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article. Seeking Alpha's Disclosure: Past performance is no guarantee of future results. No recommendation or advice is being given as to whether any investment is suitable for a particular investor. Any views or opinions expressed above may not reflect those of Seeking Alpha as a whole. Seeking Alpha is not a licensed securities dealer, broker or US investment adviser or investment bank. Our analysts are third party authors that include both professional investors and individual investors who may not be licensed or certified by any institute or regulatory body. Recommended For You
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![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/498/952/big_pic.png?io=w36) [Bret Jensen](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen#source=url_first_level%3Aarticle%7Csection%3Aauthor_brief%3Abret-jensen%7Csection_asset%3Aauthor_brief%7Cauthor_name) [Investing Group Leader](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_76#source=url_first_level%3Aarticle%7Csection%3Aauthor_brief%3Abret-jensen%7Csection_asset%3Aauthor_brief%7Cinvesting_group_badge) Follow - 5 Share - Save - Play(5min) - [Comments (209)](https://seekingalpha.com/article/4820042-5-clear-signs-of-a-market-bubble#scroll_comments) ## Summary - Markets are trading near all-time highs, despite a clearly deteriorating jobs market. - Two things are primarily powering this rally: the AI revolution and investor hopes for lower interest rates. - A prudent investor slicing the overall market using a variety of valuation lenses can see that the overall market is clearly overvalued at the moment. - This article highlights five key charts that show equities are in significantly overbought territory. - Looking for a helping hand in the market? Members of The Biotech Forum get exclusive ideas and guidance to navigate any climate. [Learn More »](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_76#source=url_first_level%3Aarticle%7Csection%3Aauthor_bullets%3A498952%7Csection_asset%3Aauthor_bullets%7CThe%20Biotech%20Forum") ![hand hole needle with stock chart in bubble](https://static.seekingalpha.com/cdn/s3/uploads/getty_images/490025786/image_490025786.jpg?io=getty-c-w750) anankkml/iStock via Getty Images The market continues to trade near all-time highs across all the major indexes. Equities continue to climb despite a clearly slowing jobs market. Job openings in this week's JOLTs [**report**](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jobs-report-august-2025-economy-trump-hiring-bls/) were lower than the number of unemployed individuals in the U.S. This is the first time this has occurred since April of 2021, over four years ago. Before the bell on Friday, the August BLS [**report**](https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/05/jobs-report-august-2025.html) showed only 22,000 positions created last month. Less than one-third of the consensus estimate of 75,000. This followed a disappointing July BLS [**reading**](https://www.bing.com/search?q=july%202025%20bls%20jobs%20report%20&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&lq=0&pq=july%202025%20bls%20jobs%20report%20&sc=12-26&sk=&cvid=66B50E580FFA4FB29B56AE8BD7AC1FA3) as well as significant downward [**revisions**](https://thehill.com/business/5431805-us-job-growth-revised-downward/) to May and June jobs numbers. ![Microsoft Cap Ex spending by Quarter](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/1/saupload_Screenshot-2025-07-30-150038.png?io=w640) SEC Filings, Geekwire Yet, the market continues to remain near record levels. The rally appears to be primarily driven by the huge investments tech titans like **Microsoft ([MSFT](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/MSFT#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link)), Alphabet ([GOOG](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/GOOG#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link))**, **Amazon ([AMZN](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/AMZN#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link)),** and **Meta Platforms ([META](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/META#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link))** are making to build massive data centers and other AI-related infrastructure and capabilities, as well as increasing hopes that the Federal Reserve will finally start to reduce interest rates starting with the upcoming FOMC in mid-September. So, how overvalued are U.S. equities? Significantly, in my opinion. In today's column, I look at five charts/metrics that should give any prudent person significant pause. ![Global Stock Market Capitlization](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/8/29/saupload_Global-Stock-Market_Terzo_Main.jpg?io=w640) Visual Capitalist The U.S. makes up approximately 4.2% of the global population, yet U.S. equities make up nearly half of all global stock market capitalization. Yes, New York City is the global financial capital, and Silicon Valley is the epicenter of technology, including the AI revolution. The greenback is the global reserve currency, at least for the moment. And the U.S. military is considered the preeminent military force on the planet. However, do U.S. equities deserve a market capitalization over 5.5 times that of the European Union, which has over 100 million more citizens? Does it merit over five times the market capitalization of China with some 1.4 billion people? [![U.S. as percent of global population](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570805539436207_origin.png?io=w640)](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570805539436207_origin.png) U.S. as percent of global population (TheGlobalEconomy.com) I often point out the S\&P 500 ([SP500](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/SP500#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link)) trades at approximately 3.2 times revenues, which has only been exceeded briefly at the end of the Internet Boom. [![Historical NASDAQ price to sales ratio](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570814112951577_origin.png?io=w640)](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570814112951577_origin.png) Historical NASDAQ price to sales ratio (Macrotrends) However, this valuation looks downright attractive compared to the price-to-sales ratio of the NASDAQ ([COMP:IND](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/COMP:IND#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link)), which is now north of 6.7 times. [![Market Cap To GDP ratio](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570816917953403_origin.png?io=w640)](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570816917953403_origin.png) GuruFocus Then we have the market cap to GDP ratio, also known as the "*Buffett Indicator,"* given the weight the Oracle of Omaha gave to it during his long, illustrious investing career. Is it any wonder why **Berkshire Hathaway ([BRK.B](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/BRK.B#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link))** has built up [**record**](https://www.investopedia.com/why-warren-buffett-is-holding-usd325-billion-8772306) cash holdings in recent years before Mr. Buffett's retirement this year? [![S\&P 500 Earnings Yield](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570828213551674_origin.png?io=w640)](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570828213551674_origin.png) S\&P 500 Earnings Yield (Multpl) Let's move over to the S\&P 500 earnings yield (trailing 12-month earnings/S\&P Index), which is just over 3.3%. The yield on the "*risk-free"* 10-year Treasury ([US10Y](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/US10Y#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link)) is currently 4.08%. This means not only is there no "*risk premium"* to holding equities, but it is actually negative. [![Arithmetic Mean calculations](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570837946588242_origin.png?io=w640)](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570837946588242_origin.png) Vettafi - August 2025 Finally, we can look at the overall market via several arithmetic means. The chart above was calculated at the end of August. It consists of: - The [**Crestmont Research**](https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2025/09/02/crestmont-p-e-and-market-valuation-august-2025) P/E ratio. - The [**cyclical P/E ratio**](https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2025/09/02/p-e10-and-market-valuation-august-2025) uses the trailing 10-year earnings as the divisor. - The [**Q ratio**](https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2025/09/02/qratio-market-valuation-august-2025) is the total price of the market divided by its replacement cost. - The [**relationship**](https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2025/09/02/regression-to-trend-s-p-composite-187-above-trend-in-august) of the S\&P composite price to a regression trendline. These calculations show the market has never been valued higher. An investor can believe one of two things about the markets trading at these levels. They can put their faith in the five most dangerous words in the English language, "*It is different this time,"* or acknowledge that the market is trading in extremely overbought territory. I clearly lean towards the latter conclusion. That leaves my portfolio roughly one-quarter allocated in short-term treasuries yielding four percent. And the rest is within [**covered call**](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/coveredcall.asp) holdings around the few stocks in this market sporting reasonable valuations. That provides some downside risk mitigation. It also allows me to continue to participate in the rally should it continue before reality eventually arrives. ## More on my IG service Live Chat on **The Biotech Forum** sees frequent discussion of specific covered call trades. To see what covered call trades I am currently executing along with a model portfolio of attractive biotech stocks, just initiate your free trial into [**The Biotech Forum**](https://seekingalpha.com/mp/76-the-biotech-forum/articles#source=ig_inline_banner) by clicking [**HERE**](https://seekingalpha.com/mp/76-the-biotech-forum/articles#source=ig_inline_banner). This article was written by ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/498/952/big_pic.png?io=w36) [Bret Jensen](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen#source=url_first_level%3Aarticle%7Csection%3Aauthor_root%3Abret-jensen%7Csection_asset%3Aauthor_root%7Cauthor_name) 57\.25K Followers Follow Bret Jensen has over 13 years as a market analyst, helping investors find big winners in the biotech sector. 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You can remove the link by deleting the \$ in the comment. Publish ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/013/247/902/small_pic.png?t=fbdc67f2b4) [ransim7222](https://seekingalpha.com/user/13247902) Sep 10, 2025, 9:13 AM Premium [Comments (30.73K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/13247902) \| \+ Follow Apparently many commenters do NOT believe that AI will produce any significant gains in productivity, despite the massive hype. Otherwise, why are they predicting a crash? Reply Like B [Big Tex 6988](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48783079) Sep 11, 2025, 8:08 AM Premium [Comments (548)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48783079) \| \+ Follow [@ransim7222](https://seekingalpha.com/user/13247902#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101065286) This commenter DOES believe that AI will produce significant gains in productivity, but it will take place over time and the amount of productivity gained in no way will justify the nosebleed valuations today. Reply Like (4) t [timinator56](https://seekingalpha.com/user/24144333) Sep 09, 2025, 11:37 AM Premium [Investing Group](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_1201#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group) [Comments (271)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/24144333) \| \+ Follow impossible to guess a top; keep trading & if we crash then deal with it; long term is up Reply Like (1) ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/853/722/small_pic.png?t=3f893f13c1) [JoeMonte](https://seekingalpha.com/user/853722) Sep 09, 2025, 7:37 AM Premium [Investing Group](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_1026#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group) [Comments (3.06K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/853722) \| \+ Follow Excellent summary ! You wonder when we could have a correction. Reply Like ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/498/952/small_pic.png?t=8d05f280f3) [Bret Jensen](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen) Sep 09, 2025, 7:42 AM [Investing Group Leader](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_76#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group%20Leader) Premium [Comments (28.65K)](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen) \| \+ Follow [@JoeMonte](https://seekingalpha.com/user/853722#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101049094) The 'When' is the hard part right now, not the 'If' Reply Like (2) B [BklynDave1](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48786333) Sep 08, 2025, 10:22 PM Premium [Comments (63)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48786333) \| \+ Follow Everyone knows how big AI will be, the timing of the payoff is going to be off just like the dot com sell off. The wheat will be separated from the chaff and we will see what we have. JEPI and some REITS (or dividend payers in general) should displace some of the risk in a portfolio IMO. Reply Like ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/005/149/981/small_pic.png?t=97e1c442d1) [Jim Wallingford](https://seekingalpha.com/author/jim-wallingford) Sep 08, 2025, 7:01 PM Premium [Comments (2.25K)](https://seekingalpha.com/author/jim-wallingford) \| \+ Follow What gnaws at me is Bob Farrell's rule \#4: Exponential rapidly rising or falling markets usually go further than you think, but they do not correct by going sideways. Am I being greedy by staying invested? Whispering in my other ear: you don't want to miss what a few analysts are forecasting as a "melt-up" to at least 7000 on theS\&P. David Hunter is calling for 8000\! So pulled in two directions at once. I have 5% trailing stops in place so feel somewhat protected but stops, of course, can be ineffective when stocks crash at the open. Somebody help me! LOL Reply Like B [Blue Goose](https://seekingalpha.com/user/39275576) Sep 08, 2025, 9:00 PM Premium [Investing Group](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_1319#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group) [Comments (6.73K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/39275576) \| \+ Follow [@Jim Wallingford](https://seekingalpha.com/author/jim-wallingford#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101047586) Net-dollar creation is strong, I'm staying long. Reply Like (1) ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/005/149/981/small_pic.png?t=97e1c442d1) [Jim Wallingford](https://seekingalpha.com/author/jim-wallingford) Sep 10, 2025, 2:07 PM Premium [Comments (2.25K)](https://seekingalpha.com/author/jim-wallingford) \| \+ Follow [@Blue Goose](https://seekingalpha.com/user/39275576#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101060763) Yup, me too. "Greed is good!" Reply Like ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/049/380/229/small_pic.png?t=342b6fbd22) [Joe4477](https://seekingalpha.com/user/49380229) Sep 08, 2025, 6:27 PM Premium [Comments (139)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/49380229) \| \+ Follow "Goldman Sachs forecasts positive outlook for U.S. stocks through 2026" - 9/8/2025 Don't fall for the scare tactics discussed in this article. Use your own good sense and look at earnings growth, foreign and domestic investment in the US, the transformational power of AI and what it will do to productivity. Not all companies will be able to capitalize on these tailwinds. Choose the ones that will. Reply Like ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/498/952/small_pic.png?t=8d05f280f3) [Bret Jensen](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen) Sep 08, 2025, 6:32 PM [Investing Group Leader](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_76#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group%20Leader) Premium [Comments (28.65K)](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen) \| \+ Follow [@Joe4477](https://seekingalpha.com/user/49380229#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101046699) AKA, ignore the fast-deteriorating jobs market, falling home prices, sticky inflation, extreme market valuations, and over \$37T of federal debt, which is rising fast.......It is all about FOMO and AI, Campers\! And Goldman is never WRONG! :-) Reply Like (2) B [BklynDave1](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48786333) Sep 08, 2025, 10:21 PM Premium [Comments (63)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48786333) \| \+ Follow [@Bret Jensen](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101047875) the goldman piece actually is what got me reading this article because it scared me. Those d bags would say something like that and backout of everything before the rest of took a massive haircut. Reply Like (1) ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/498/952/small_pic.png?t=8d05f280f3) [Bret Jensen](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen) Sep 09, 2025, 7:40 AM [Investing Group Leader](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_76#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group%20Leader) Premium [Comments (28.65K)](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen) \| \+ Follow [@BklynDave1](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48786333#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101049086) I have several friends that were on or ran trading desks on Wall Street back in the 90s. If Goldman said buy back then, it meant they were selling for clients and sell meant vice versa. Some things don't change Reply Like (1) See More Replies S [SeattleBiotechInvestor](https://seekingalpha.com/user/15645092) Sep 08, 2025, 3:48 PM Premium [Comments (8)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/15645092) \| \+ Follow Bret you have made your case--thanks for this well-argued article. But as I look to reduce my exposure to US equities, where do you recommend I look to invest the funds? (I just bought a 4-plex residential investment property taking the down payment out of the market but not sure where else to go). Reply Like ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/498/952/small_pic.png?t=8d05f280f3) [Bret Jensen](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen) Sep 08, 2025, 6:14 PM [Investing Group Leader](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_76#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group%20Leader) Premium [Comments (28.65K)](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen) \| \+ Follow [@SeattleBiotechInvestor](https://seekingalpha.com/user/15645092#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101046512) I go rid of my property in mid-2023 for a nice profit. Currently sitting in 25% short term treasuries, 1% in Armageddon trades and the rest in covered call holdings around the few stocks in the market sporting reasonable valuations. Reply Like B [Big Tex 6988](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48783079) Sep 08, 2025, 8:44 AM Premium [Comments (548)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48783079) \| \+ Follow There is no discussion in the article on the roughly \$8 trillion of fiat money pumped into the system over the past 5 years. The real question to me is when do the distortions created by this unprecedented action finally wear off? Reply Like (2) ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/498/952/small_pic.png?t=8d05f280f3) [Bret Jensen](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen) Sep 08, 2025, 9:14 AM [Investing Group Leader](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_76#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group%20Leader) Premium [Comments (28.65K)](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen) \| \+ Follow [@Big Tex 6988](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48783079#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101042642) I have covered that many, many times in other articles in recent months Reply Like (1) P [532P799R](https://seekingalpha.com/user/6457561) Sep 07, 2025, 8:56 PM Premium [Investing Group](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_1026#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group) [Comments (16.85K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/6457561) \| \+ Follow Excellent data and commentary. Reply Like ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/864/194/small_pic.png?t=a6ed096ff2) [haleakala](https://seekingalpha.com/user/864194) Sep 07, 2025, 2:19 PM Premium [Comments (708)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/864194) \| \+ Follow I bought QQQs at 22 in 2002, and sold in 40s a few years later. Had I held, it would have been 500s today. My 3 points are- 1: Time in market. Y, we’re totally sick of reading it on SA, but it’s the cure for everything. If you’re a boomer, you may not have enough time left for that to be applicable. So tread carefully here. If you’re under 50 and have a job, take up golf or cure cancer, hedge a bit, take some insane profits off the table, but don’t sweat it unless you’re leveraged. 2. The cream rises over time. Which is why QQQ sits near 600. Cap weighting over time is why index funds are the only thing which make sense. Until they don’t. 3. During my investing lifetime, companies ended the old traditional retirement plans like my Dad had. So American life is built on IRAs and 401ks. IOW, Mom, baseball, apple pie, and 401ks. Not in that order. That daily push for retirement means old traditional valuation metrics are probably not valid in a classic sense. How can PEs in the 10-15 range truly exist when the guys pulling weeds from your backyard are putting money into their IRAs, besides everyone else between the coasts. Same for most valuation metrics. So while I agree that companies like Palentir and NVDA will probably have graphs like CSCO did after 2000, the indexes will capture the new cream over time, which will have huge valuations. Perpetual chain letter will occasionally stretch or transiently break, but it will always eventually reconstitute and continue. The American way. Reply Like (2) S [SB Pirate](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48423075) Sep 07, 2025, 7:39 PM [Comments (3.9K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48423075) \| \+ Follow [@haleakala](https://seekingalpha.com/user/864194#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101040523) not always, sometimes there is the straw that puts the camel out of commission. History says eventually can be 500+ years. Hard to know if we are there or there is another round of inflation to come. Reply Like (1) ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/864/194/small_pic.png?t=a6ed096ff2) [haleakala](https://seekingalpha.com/user/864194) Sep 07, 2025, 8:33 PM Premium [Comments (708)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/864194) \| \+ Follow [@SB Pirate](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48423075#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101040700) Y, 3 decades for Nikkei to get back to old high, 12 years for Nasdaq after dot com., 7 yrs for other indices. Not acceptable for most boomers, a non event if under age 50, especially with regular contributions. 500 yrs could be tough, especially w low vol. Reply Like m [mewink](https://seekingalpha.com/user/23767853) Sep 07, 2025, 12:44 PM [Comments (34)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/23767853) \| \+ Follow " Before reality eventual arrives" When is this going to happen, meaning stocks will return to reasonable valuation as defined by Warren Buffett ? There are many stocks overvalued which gone up quite a bit. A good example is Palantir which has an astronomical P/E of over value of 500 and yet it went up quite a bit initially. Reality as defined by Buffett works in a long run but not with active trading. Reply Like (1) ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/029/030/705/small_pic.png?t=cbb8937da4) [luckylalo](https://seekingalpha.com/user/29030705) Sep 08, 2025, 1:27 AM Premium [Investing Group](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_1026#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group) [Comments (4.22K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/29030705) \| \+ Follow [@mewink](https://seekingalpha.com/user/23767853#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101041425) Revolutionary companies sometimes have astronomical P/Es. But their shareholders still get rich while value investors sit on the sidelines. I've been one of those value investors on occasion. Reply Like (1) M [Murrs700](https://seekingalpha.com/user/7122391) Sep 07, 2025, 10:53 AM Premium [Investing Group](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_1177#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group) [Comments (1.17K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/7122391) \| \+ Follow Keep up the good work. It is very hard being a bear in a bubble market. The last 5 years have rewritten the rules of the market for sure. The excess in the stock market is part of what's adding to the inflation problem, debt problem and many others. Additionally it is fueling what I call lottery winner mentality. When people win the lottery they generally go bankrupt at some point after. Whenever anyone gets flushed with cash in a short period of time the same end result almost always happens. The recent market increases are functioning pretty much the same as a massive lottery win. Historically an annual return of 8-10% on most investment was considered very good. Last few years people have come to think 25-45% return is the new normal. Wouldn't that be a nice fantasy, but alas thats all it is. The music will continue until it doesn't. To be fair the dot com bubble started in 1995 and lasted almost 5 years. While you could argue the current bubble started in 2020 with a slight pause in 2022-2023, I peg the start closer to October 2023 which means we could be in the 4th or the 9th inning right now. 5 years is definitely not a standard. Ultimately we will eventually see the market return at a minimum to the highs of 2023. What and when are impossible to know. It's beyond irresponsible to be long anything right now, but also likely not a very good idea to try to short. This is a holding pattern market where the sidelines are generally the best spot for the near term. Reply Like (2) H [HigherHigh](https://seekingalpha.com/user/4113391) Sep 07, 2025, 10:17 AM Premium [Comments (231)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/4113391) \| \+ Follow I don't like the word "bubble". To me that's like saying, "The sky is falling! The sky is falling!" But I also think it's a matter of days before a Correction. I don't like Covered Calls, but I will check into them. Thanks. Reply Like ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/049/516/233/small_pic.png?t=d3516bb828) [HildaBeast](https://seekingalpha.com/user/49516233) Sep 07, 2025, 2:17 PM Premium [Investing Group](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_1026#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group) [Comments (859)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/49516233) \| \+ Follow [@HigherHigh](https://seekingalpha.com/user/4113391#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101039297) If I am preaching to the choir, please pardon me. An idea: Although your return will be less than if you were writing the calls yourself, there are good quality, derivative income funds that return between 4 and 10+% in monthy distributions. Although being beaten down by naysayers of late, We have a significant position in JEPI. I currently like its partner fund JEPQ, and I like DIVO as well. The expense ratios are modest on these too. At this point, with "frothy" "bubbles" of "irrational exuberance", I am leaving it up to people who know way more than me to protect me a bit in the downside. I have also started looking into specific CEFs. While the expense rations are high (one, DFP- Dynamic Preferred Income sits at 1.5%), the returns are considerable and the experts are making [@HigherHigh](https://seekingalpha.com/user/4113391#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101039297) Reply Like V [Vgananth](https://seekingalpha.com/user/61143267) Sep 07, 2025, 10:00 AM [Comments (1)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/61143267) \| \+ Follow Very sensible Reply Like ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/013/247/902/small_pic.png?t=fbdc67f2b4) [ransim7222](https://seekingalpha.com/user/13247902) Sep 07, 2025, 9:01 AM Premium [Comments (30.73K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/13247902) \| \+ Follow All the predictions of a total demise in global preference for US equities and debt have been wrong. In case anyone missed it, there is a new Axis of Evil developing and the world seems to be worried as we have seen this movie before. And where do a lot of global investors seek safety? The US equity market alone is one-half of the entire world equity market. So US equities and debt 'Climb the wall of worry.' IMO. Reply Like ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/007/221/531/small_pic.png?t=9a07e701ca) [TJ Burke](https://seekingalpha.com/user/7221531) Sep 07, 2025, 8:44 AM Premium [Comments (2.24K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/7221531) \| \+ Follow “market has never been valued higher”? Really, never? That’s a bold statement my friend. Reply Like (2) ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/498/952/small_pic.png?t=8d05f280f3) [Bret Jensen](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen) Sep 07, 2025, 8:58 AM [Investing Group Leader](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_76#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group%20Leader) Premium [Comments (28.65K)](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen) \| \+ Follow [@TJ Burke](https://seekingalpha.com/user/7221531#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101037703) Look at the historical metrics Reply Like (2) ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/007/221/531/small_pic.png?t=9a07e701ca) [TJ Burke](https://seekingalpha.com/user/7221531) Sep 07, 2025, 11:05 AM Premium [Comments (2.24K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/7221531) \| \+ Follow [@Bret Jensen](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101038399) Noted. Reply Like ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/048/609/214/small_pic.png?t=b2e1abddd0) [Algorithmic](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48609214) Sep 07, 2025, 8:16 AM Premium [Investing Group](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_1268#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group) [Comments (1.04K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/48609214) \| \+ Follow [@Bret Jensen](https://seekingalpha.com/author/bret-jensen#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101037592) Your chart showing the relative size of each countries market valuation was very revealing, especially as a sign of wealth. I always thought that the market was also an indicator of optimism. There is a lot of optimism in the US. AI is optimism. How many technical revolutions has the US been the growth catalyst for? Trains, Planes, Automobiles, computers, now AI. The innovative makers found a place where the fruits of their imagintion are rewarded. Vanderbuilt, Hughes, Ford, Gates, ... Ultra long \$[msft](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/MSFT#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101037592), Long \$[xom](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/XOM#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101037592). Tech and energy is all you need going forward. Reply Like (2) O [Old Line Trader](https://seekingalpha.com/user/30576455) Sep 07, 2025, 8:01 AM Premium [Comments (151)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/30576455) \| \+ Follow Valuations have almost always seemed high over the past 5 years, yet somehow the stock market continues to make higher highs. This, despite the fact that interest rates are still rather high. I’m not sure why you would sell equities when rate cuts are imminent. Dropping bond yields will make equities more attractive in my opinion. Reply Like (2) I [Iamtheproduxt](https://seekingalpha.com/user/49122339) Sep 07, 2025, 6:28 AM Premium [Investing Group](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_1392#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group) [Comments (294)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/49122339) \| \+ Follow the labour market is slowing due to Gen AI making the existing workforce more productive. And this trend should continue and reach another inflection point as robotics + AI becomes widely adopted for manual labour. Reply Like (1) ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/029/030/705/small_pic.png?t=cbb8937da4) [luckylalo](https://seekingalpha.com/user/29030705) Sep 08, 2025, 1:26 AM Premium [Investing Group](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_1026#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group) [Comments (4.22K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/29030705) \| \+ Follow [@Iamtheproduxt](https://seekingalpha.com/user/49122339#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101041424) Tariffs are causing the slowdown more than AI. Reply Like ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/030/556/small_pic.png?t=0ca2506c76) [Chimpanzee ate my face](https://seekingalpha.com/user/30556) Sep 06, 2025, 8:54 PM [Investing Group](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_1241#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group) [Comments (1.16K)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/30556) \| \+ Follow According to Barron's, there is one \$trillion of margin debt hanging over the stock and option markets. That doesn't sound good. [www.barrons.com/...](https://www.barrons.com/articles/borrowing-bet-on-markets-1-trillion-dangerous-414f0843?mod=past_editions "https://www.barrons.com/articles/borrowing-bet-on-markets-1-trillion-dangerous-414f0843?mod=past_editions") Reply Like (3) ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/049/516/233/small_pic.png?t=d3516bb828) [HildaBeast](https://seekingalpha.com/user/49516233) Sep 07, 2025, 2:27 PM Premium [Investing Group](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_1026#source=first_level_url%3Anews%7Csection%3Acomments%7Csection_asset%3Abadge%7Cbutton%3AInvesting%20Group) [Comments (859)](https://seekingalpha.com/user/49516233) \| \+ Follow [@Chimpanzee ate my face](https://seekingalpha.com/user/30556#source=section%3Acomment%7Csection_asset%3Acomment%7Cfirst_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_id%3A4820042%7Ccomment_id%3A101039349) Wow. I had not seen that figure. Thanks. Add to that the level of consumer debt: \$1.64T student loans, \$1.66T auto loans and \$1.21T credit card debt and we have approx \$6.5T in debt for which we'll be on the hook for...again. Reply Like Add A Comment Disagree with this article? [Submit your own](https://about.seekingalpha.com/become-an-analyst). To report a factual error in this article, click here . Your feedback matters to us\! ### About SP500 Ticker | Symbol | Last Price | % Chg | |---|---|---| | [SP500](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/SP500#source=first_level_url%3Aarticle%7Csection%3Aright_rail%7Csection_asset%3Aabout%7Cline%3A1%7Csymbol%3ASP500) S\&P 500 Index | 6,582.70 | 0\.11% | - 1D - 5D - 1M - 6M - 1Y - 5Y - 10Y ###### Chart Combination chart with 2 data series. View as data table, Chart The chart has 1 X axis displaying Time. Data ranges from 2025-04-02 00:00:00 to 2026-04-02 00:00:00. The chart has 1 Y axis displaying values. Data ranges from 4982.77 to 6978.59. 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1. [Home](https://seekingalpha.com/#source=first_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_type%3Aall%7Csection%3Apage_breadcrumbs) 2. [Market Outlook](https://seekingalpha.com/market-outlook#source=first_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_type%3Aall%7Csection%3Apage_breadcrumbs) 3. [Today's Market](https://seekingalpha.com/market-outlook/todays-market#source=first_level_url%3Aarticle%7Ccontent_type%3Aall%7Csection%3Apage_breadcrumbs) ![](https://seekingalpha.com/images/users_profile/000/498/952/big_pic.png?io=w36) ## Summary - Markets are trading near all-time highs, despite a clearly deteriorating jobs market. - Two things are primarily powering this rally: the AI revolution and investor hopes for lower interest rates. - A prudent investor slicing the overall market using a variety of valuation lenses can see that the overall market is clearly overvalued at the moment. - This article highlights five key charts that show equities are in significantly overbought territory. - Looking for a helping hand in the market? Members of The Biotech Forum get exclusive ideas and guidance to navigate any climate. [Learn More »](https://seekingalpha.com/checkout/mp_76#source=url_first_level%3Aarticle%7Csection%3Aauthor_bullets%3A498952%7Csection_asset%3Aauthor_bullets%7CThe%20Biotech%20Forum") ![hand hole needle with stock chart in bubble](https://static.seekingalpha.com/cdn/s3/uploads/getty_images/490025786/image_490025786.jpg?io=getty-c-w750) anankkml/iStock via Getty Images The market continues to trade near all-time highs across all the major indexes. Equities continue to climb despite a clearly slowing jobs market. Job openings in this week's JOLTs [**report**](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jobs-report-august-2025-economy-trump-hiring-bls/) were lower than the number of unemployed individuals in the U.S. This is the first time this has occurred since April of 2021, over four years ago. Before the bell on Friday, the August BLS [**report**](https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/05/jobs-report-august-2025.html) showed only 22,000 positions created last month. Less than one-third of the consensus estimate of 75,000. This followed a disappointing July BLS [**reading**](https://www.bing.com/search?q=july%202025%20bls%20jobs%20report%20&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&lq=0&pq=july%202025%20bls%20jobs%20report%20&sc=12-26&sk=&cvid=66B50E580FFA4FB29B56AE8BD7AC1FA3) as well as significant downward [**revisions**](https://thehill.com/business/5431805-us-job-growth-revised-downward/) to May and June jobs numbers. ![Microsoft Cap Ex spending by Quarter](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/1/saupload_Screenshot-2025-07-30-150038.png?io=w640) SEC Filings, Geekwire Yet, the market continues to remain near record levels. The rally appears to be primarily driven by the huge investments tech titans like **Microsoft ([MSFT](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/MSFT#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link)), Alphabet ([GOOG](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/GOOG#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link))**, **Amazon ([AMZN](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/AMZN#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link)),** and **Meta Platforms ([META](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/META#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link))** are making to build massive data centers and other AI-related infrastructure and capabilities, as well as increasing hopes that the Federal Reserve will finally start to reduce interest rates starting with the upcoming FOMC in mid-September. So, how overvalued are U.S. equities? Significantly, in my opinion. In today's column, I look at five charts/metrics that should give any prudent person significant pause. ![Global Stock Market Capitlization](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/8/29/saupload_Global-Stock-Market_Terzo_Main.jpg?io=w640) Visual Capitalist The U.S. makes up approximately 4.2% of the global population, yet U.S. equities make up nearly half of all global stock market capitalization. Yes, New York City is the global financial capital, and Silicon Valley is the epicenter of technology, including the AI revolution. The greenback is the global reserve currency, at least for the moment. And the U.S. military is considered the preeminent military force on the planet. However, do U.S. equities deserve a market capitalization over 5.5 times that of the European Union, which has over 100 million more citizens? Does it merit over five times the market capitalization of China with some 1.4 billion people? [![U.S. as percent of global population](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570805539436207_origin.png?io=w640)](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570805539436207_origin.png) U.S. as percent of global population (TheGlobalEconomy.com) I often point out the S\&P 500 ([SP500](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/SP500#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link)) trades at approximately 3.2 times revenues, which has only been exceeded briefly at the end of the Internet Boom. [![Historical NASDAQ price to sales ratio](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570814112951577_origin.png?io=w640)](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570814112951577_origin.png) Historical NASDAQ price to sales ratio (Macrotrends) However, this valuation looks downright attractive compared to the price-to-sales ratio of the NASDAQ ([COMP:IND](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/COMP:IND#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link)), which is now north of 6.7 times. [![Market Cap To GDP ratio](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570816917953403_origin.png?io=w640)](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570816917953403_origin.png) GuruFocus Then we have the market cap to GDP ratio, also known as the "*Buffett Indicator,"* given the weight the Oracle of Omaha gave to it during his long, illustrious investing career. Is it any wonder why **Berkshire Hathaway ([BRK.B](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/BRK.B#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link))** has built up [**record**](https://www.investopedia.com/why-warren-buffett-is-holding-usd325-billion-8772306) cash holdings in recent years before Mr. Buffett's retirement this year? [![S\&P 500 Earnings Yield](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570828213551674_origin.png?io=w640)](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570828213551674_origin.png) S\&P 500 Earnings Yield (Multpl) Let's move over to the S\&P 500 earnings yield (trailing 12-month earnings/S\&P Index), which is just over 3.3%. The yield on the "*risk-free"* 10-year Treasury ([US10Y](https://seekingalpha.com/symbol/US10Y#hasComeFromMpArticle=true#source=section%3Amain_content%7Cbutton%3Abody_link)) is currently 4.08%. This means not only is there no "*risk premium"* to holding equities, but it is actually negative. [![Arithmetic Mean calculations](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570837946588242_origin.png?io=w640)](https://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2025/9/5/498952-17570837946588242_origin.png) Vettafi - August 2025 Finally, we can look at the overall market via several arithmetic means. The chart above was calculated at the end of August. It consists of: - The [**Crestmont Research**](https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2025/09/02/crestmont-p-e-and-market-valuation-august-2025) P/E ratio. - The [**cyclical P/E ratio**](https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2025/09/02/p-e10-and-market-valuation-august-2025) uses the trailing 10-year earnings as the divisor. - The [**Q ratio**](https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2025/09/02/qratio-market-valuation-august-2025) is the total price of the market divided by its replacement cost. - The [**relationship**](https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2025/09/02/regression-to-trend-s-p-composite-187-above-trend-in-august) of the S\&P composite price to a regression trendline. These calculations show the market has never been valued higher. An investor can believe one of two things about the markets trading at these levels. They can put their faith in the five most dangerous words in the English language, "*It is different this time,"* or acknowledge that the market is trading in extremely overbought territory. I clearly lean towards the latter conclusion. That leaves my portfolio roughly one-quarter allocated in short-term treasuries yielding four percent. And the rest is within [**covered call**](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/coveredcall.asp) holdings around the few stocks in this market sporting reasonable valuations. That provides some downside risk mitigation. It also allows me to continue to participate in the rally should it continue before reality eventually arrives. 57\.25K Followers **Analyst’s Disclosure:** I/we have a beneficial long position in the shares of AMZN either through stock ownership, options, or other derivatives. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article. **Seeking Alpha's Disclosure:** Past performance is no guarantee of future results. No recommendation or advice is being given as to whether any investment is suitable for a particular investor. Any views or opinions expressed above may not reflect those of Seeking Alpha as a whole. Seeking Alpha is not a licensed securities dealer, broker or US investment adviser or investment bank. Our analysts are third party authors that include both professional investors and individual investors who may not be licensed or certified by any institute or regulatory body. 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